I only read
few paragraphs on the article and the short story “Dangerous days” from Los
Angeles Noir, so I am going to base my respond on that. First of all, Double
Indemnity is the very first film noir I have ever seen or read. Everything that
I know about noir is based on that movie/novel. As I was reading the article I
learned that noir can also be horror, thrillers and science fiction. The
article talks about a lot of movies I have no idea about but it seems to me that
noir has a very broad categories, like how the article describe it, it is very
stylish and that’s where neo noir fall
into that category an example of that is dangerous days. When I was reading it,
first thing I notice is the use of words. It’s all gangsters up and very
informal, I found it vulgar and offensive compare to classic noir like double
indemnity where the words are more decent and picked carefully. I also notice that
the settings on this novel are everywhere, an abandon house, a hotel, a parking
lot but every place gives us a dangerous feeling that focus on the situation whereas
double indemnity focus on the dark side area and emphasize the character’s
emotions. The characters are quite a lot on this neo noir story too, and every
one of them are mention by name and has a little bit of introduction even
though that’s the first and last time were going to see from them, unlike
double indemnity, every characters are important and plays a big role in the
story. The femme fatale does not really play an important role to neo noir she
cannot destroy the protagonist as much as she can on classic noir. Dangerous
days is told from a third person view meaning each character is referred to as “she”
or “he” “it or “they” balancing our judgment towards the characters, because we
are basically hearing or knowing a story from someone who is not involve unlike
classic noir like double indemnity and sunset boulevard, they have first view
person and both of them are from the protagonist point of view, on sunset
boulevard it was a series of flash back and a dead person is narrating it so it
gives us an unrealistic idea. I also think that neo noir is in no need of psychological
analysis from the audience, kind of like what you is what you get, as compare
to classic noir where there’s always a subliminal message on everything that
even a “moon” can dictates how the ending will go. That being said and
compared, neo noir is derived and evolved from classic noir, that’s why it’s
called neo noir or new black because it fits on today’s society, it’s aggressive,
gruesome and full of actions. The new genre explores on life’s possible threats
and danger, from everyone and every place so for me it’s more realistic and scary.
Classic noir is more mellow, conservative and innocent. This transition has
something to do with the constant change in our society. Both is still similar
when it comes to crime that revolves around death, danger and that fatalistic
effect to the audience, they just have a different way of expressing it. I
personally like classic noir because it is less violent for me and more on
emotions getting involve.
Like you, Double Indemnity was the first example of noir that I had really looked in to. I had seen examples of noir before but I did not know that I was actually looking at noir. I wrote similar things on my blog about how neo-noir is based more towards our audiences today and how it relates more towards topics that are happening today. I did not really think about how neo-noir is more scary and realistic but now that I read that I believe you are right. Things were not as scary or dangerous back in the 40s and 50s and today we face more things that are a threat to us.
ReplyDeleteyou're right neo-noir is scarier because it's focus is on our fears and definitions of danger not a previous times version. we have to take in account though that not all film noir is exactly the same and not all neo-noir is the same. like you said " noir can also be horror, thrillers and science fiction". noir borrows from different genres to create a hot mess filled with drama, romance and excitement. i noticed you said that neo-noir is different "because we are basically hearing or knowing a story from someone who is not involve", although that is very insightful it is not completely accurate. if you watch movies like "Brick" you will be pleasantly surprised as to how similar old and new noir can get. all in all this was a good post and i liked hearing your opinion on it.
ReplyDeleteI also found neo noir to be offensive and vulgar, it was much more out there then film noir. Not only was the profanity all over the place but the sexual scenes were much more descriptive. I feel like neo noir is the triple X version, everything seems to be more over the top. The scenes like you mentioned were everywhere, which made it harder for me to keep up with the story. I think neo noir is by far more interesting to watch on film but classic noir is more interesting as a novel. Funny you mention you only read a few paragraphs from the article, it was just to long and to much informtion on to many topics, when I was done reading I just starred at it thinking ok, I read it but Im not sure I understand. The 2 two short stories we were to read were as confusing especialy the first one with the cop, the language threw me off. I had to go back and read to make sure I understood.
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DeleteI am glad to hear that I was not the only one that found “Dangerous Days” not of such taste like that of “Double Indemnity”. there is a difference in how the story was told didn’t have that dark angle. I found it not attractive to the mind. It did reflect the gangster L.A. mood. I appreciated the twisted ending in “Midnight in Silicon Alley” and like you mentioned it did feel a bit impersonal as it referred to third party quite often. Mood was weak. So far I seem to have preference in “Double Indemnity” the novel and movie.
Deletethis is great! I did not get the chance to read this article and do the assignment so your post gave me some insight of how neo noir is like. You said it perfectly by saying that events are tied in through things that fit in todays society other than it being in the 40's like classic film noir. It seems just as it is titled "new noir", that as time has progressed, crime has been less conservative. So it may explain the vulgarity in the text that you mentioned. From the language and current stories of todays average crimes, I can sort of guess that neo noir is more raw and bold. It might hold less back and could possible entertain the younger crowed because for some reason gore and vulgarity is more entertaining.
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